What inspired you to create a podcast as a method to bridge the civilian-military disconnect:
Less than 1% of Americans are in the military, and not very many Americans even know someone who serves. That fact presents some problems for a democratic society where the military is supposed to be accountable to the civilian population, but most voters don’t really know what the military does or what its purpose is. And we in the military don’t always do the best job of educating the other 99% about our role in society either. Nick and I believed there might be people out there who would like to learn something about this topic but have no idea where to begin — it can be a pretty intimidating subject. So we started Thank You For Your Service as a podcast, because it was really important to us to have these conversations in a medium that’s both easily accessible and nuanced.
You were chosen to be on ProMazo’s list of Most Interesting Students for a reason. Do you have any advice for other students hoping to create their own success:
That’s a tough one. I’d say don’t be afraid to break out of the mold. When you’re presented with an opportunity, what you do with it doesn’t have to be determined by what your peers are doing or what has already been done.
Favorite quote:
“In ordinary life we hardly realize that we receive a great deal more than we give, and that it is only with gratitude that life becomes rich.” - Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Biggest role models or inspirations:
Dr. Russell Moore, Senator John McCain, President Harry Truman, Dr. Kori Schake, and my dad.
Fun Fact:
I met (former Defense Secretary) Jim Mattis at the Pentagon. He told me I needed to work out more — now I’m training for the Chicago Marathon.
Favorite hobbies:
Fishing and hiking in Alaska (my home state), playing the piano, swimming, reading biographies!
Career path:
After finishing my graduate degree I’ll be in the Navy for at least six years as an officer on a nuclear submarine. I’m really excited to get out to the Fleet and join my friends from Annapolis who already are doing really amazing things around the world.


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